Headline grabber. Customer Service SUPERVISOR called me a Liar after I told him I never upgraded my CC and that other people had access to my account. Flat out called me a liar.
So, strap in for the full story.
June 14th 2015 I got the one year $19.99 single app for Adobe Premiere. Happy as a clam. I just got a gig working on an editing project for a company a friend hooked me up with.
CUT TO: August, I suddenly get a charge on my account for $51.99. I'm freaked out. I try to contact customer service. Phone and chat. You guessed it...
TOTAL NIGHTMARE
My issue, I suddenly see TWO plans connected to my account. Go through hours of chatting, hours of holding and talking to support that doesn't understand me. I have to explain repeatedly to NUMEROUS support people, supervisors, chat reps. I know, you've had this nightmare too.
Apparently someone on the project I was working on added me to a TEAM. Cool. I never met anyone on this team. Just worked from my home. I did have one day in August 2015 where I want to the office with my laptop and worked there. Tons of people working on the same gig in and out all day. This is where the extra CC plan came into play.
My solution? Delete whatever this extra account is. I want my account. Simple. Took 3 weeks and numerous "customer service" chats and calls to resolve. I got a refund on this extra charge.
CUT TO: 2 days ago. I get an overdraft notice from my bank. Another $51.99 charge from Adobe. WTF right? I look into it. Now, I know this is me not doing my due diligence, but they've been charging me $51.99 a month since August 2015. After the initial refund and supposed cancellation of the TEAM account.
CUT TO: Today! After hours on the phone yesterday, hours of chatting attempts, and another 3 hours on the phone today I think I have figured out what happened. However, Adobe's "customer service" is clearly incapable of logic, understanding human nature, and also the knowledge of the age old saying "The customer is always right."
We all know the customer is NOT always right, but you should at least talk to them like the might be, yes?
I know I'm right in this case. After explaining my situation repeatedly to 5 different people in text and verbal form and going through chat records. Sees my multiple attempts to cancel the extra plan, sees my confusion as to why the $51.99 charge showed up in the first place. Then, in the 7th chat record he finds a message of me saying I upgraded my account. Well here, read it for yourself:
Hi, I want to make sure I am not being charged for two creative cloud accounts. I upgraded from Premiere pro to the 49.99 a monthplan and also upgraded from the photography package. When I go to my Plans and Products tabs it shows two creative cloud plans. Just making sure I am only being charged for one.
I'm shocked. I never wrote that. That's not how I write, not how I talk. I never authorized that. What gives? He then cuts me off. I let him finish and start to talk again. I say, "I didn't write that, somebody had to have...." CUTS ME OFF AGAIN. Calls me a LIAR.
Deep breath. I've been dealing with this for the past two days, I'm in my 3rd hour of phone time spent dealing with this and THIS is the SUPERVISOR calling me a LIAR before I even get a full sentence out of my mouth. He cuts me off and tells me there is no way anyone could send a message through my account. It's IMPOSSIBLE. I attempt to speak again, asking him to stop cutting me off. I tell him all my passwords are saved on my computer, that I don't have to log in when.... HE CUTS ME OFF AGAIN. AGAIN he says YOU ARE A LIAR.
At this point I tell him to STOP CUTTING ME OFF. Again I tell him that I understand that he has a record of me saying that I upgraded my account, that I understand because of that he is telling me he cannot give me a refund for the last 10 months of being overcharged. What I want is.... HE CUTS ME OFF AGAIN.
At this point I tell him to stop cutting me off and ask for HIS supervisor. He tells me there is no supervisor there that can help me and he is the supervisor. I tell him I want this last charge that went in 2 days ago refunded and I want to cancel my account altogether. I do this. He waives the cancelation fee... a saintly move on his part.
What I would have explained to him had he allowed me to speak is the following scenario.
When I was added to this TEAM on the editing gig I had I gave my info to a TEAM REP on the phone one day because I was having trouble logging in and getting my cloud to actually open. He logs in on his end, looks things over, tells me to try again. Everything seems to have worked out fine. NOTE: this is my first time using Adobe Premiere and Creative Cloud.
I also had the day I was in the actual office with at least 8 other editors and other people who were all part of the TEAM. At least 3 of these guys hopped on my laptop to check their email. I know, why let someone use your laptop? They were rendering, and I'm a nice guy. That simple.
The notion that it is not possible someone got on my computer and upgraded my account is ridiculous. Again, I am like a lot of people, my passwords are all saved. I auto-log in. Why someone would upgrade through my account? I don't know. Maybe they thought they were logged in to their own account. Maybe my info I gave over the phone got nabbed by someone else. None of this really matters to me because the odds of me finding out at this point are beyond slim. And I already know the ultimate truth, MY BAD. I didn't check my bank account charges from Adobe for 10 months because after the initial refund I thought everything was fixed. I have left my computer on and have given access to it to tons of friends and friends of friends. Anyone could have done it for any reason.
Just to highlight a couple of other things:
I NEVER got any notice from Adobe that there was a price increase in my CC plan. I did get an email that said my situation was resolved but nothing showing any price increase. I never received an email copy of that chat session either. Also, here's a selection from a chat that happened AFTER this "upgrade" chat:
Rahul Dialle:I can see that you have CC Team and CC Individual subscriptions under your account
Rahul Dialle:May i know which CC subscription would you like to cancel?
Scott Perry: The most recent purchase
Scott Perry: The TEAM one
Scott Perry: Please delete the team one
Rahul Dialle:There is a CC Team with 8 licenses under that CC Team
Rahul Dialle:Would you like to cancel all the 8 licenses or any specific one?
Scott Perry: I just want to be removed and only have my personal CC account
Rahul Dialle:Okay
Rahul Dialle:I can see that you are no longer a part of this CC Team subscription
Scott Perry: Great. I would like to have that account removed from my CC account. When I go to Plans and Products 2 CC plans show up.
Scott Perry: Your file was successfully uploaded: VNRaHfCWnCn7wy00DaDq16scrreenshotSCOTT ALLEN PERRY CC accounts.png.
Scott Perry: That's what I see when I go to manage my account. Two separate CC accounts. Both appear active
Rahul Dialle:I am afraid but that product will be listed under your account as once you had that product assigned to your account
Rahul Dialle:That list is not for the plans that you currently have
Rahul Dialle:That list is for all the products that you ever had and have from Adobe
Rahul Dialle:You can ignore that list Scott
Scott Perry: Ok
I think it is pretty clear that I wanted to cancel "the most recent purchase" which would have been the erroneous UPGRADE.
I never got to say any of this because I was busy being cut off and called a liar by the face of Adobe Customer Service.
I cancelled my account. I am supposedly getting a refund for the most recent $51.99 charge to my account within the next 3 to 7 business days. I absolutely love Adobe products. I absolutely HATE their customer service. This makes you a very ugly company, Adobe. Talking to you. You are a horrible, hideous, and evil company.... but don't mind me. I'm a liar.
Best, Scott Perry
Former Adobe product user